• Why did Kristine trust Jimmy Chin and his wife Chai Vasarhelyi to make ‘Wild Life’? Chin’s remarks that “this is a story that should be told.” How making the film took 7 years to craft and what impact Kris hoped to achieve with the documentary.

• How Jimmy Chin and Chai Vasarhelyi peeled out the main story from many stories and with 26 years of archival footage.

• ‘Wild Life” on public release now on Disney + and Hulu.

• Before he died in a tragic Kayaking accident, Doug was profiled at home in Pumalin Park in Laetitia Cash’s ‘Journey to The Future Patagonia National Park‘ where he quoted Martin Lurther King’s poem on technology and modernity disconnecting the human being from nature and god.

• Kristine is asked to share about her view of the role of technology in accelerating environmental degradation and climate change – doing more harm than good?

• Kristine shares that it’s not a question of power and technology in and of itself but rather what are “we”, as human collective, doing with it? “The price of technology is being paid today.”

• The 30% by 2030 and 50 by 2050 UNEP/UN conservation goals and the objective to create “durable” National Parks.

• Priorities of tackling the harm being caused to nature by industry, agriculture and industrial fisheries.

• How Kristine believes society can strike the right balance between protecting nature and biodiversity, achieving land restoration and sustainable communities with issues like food security or fuel poverty.

• Ecocentrics (deep ecology movement/nature first) Vs Anthropocentrics (outlook based on climate change caused by humans)

• How to get conservation right and how to can be done wrong. Importance of ‘pecularities of place’.

• Impact on Ibera, wetlands Tompkins Conservation’s (TC’s) 2 million acre National Park and the re-introduction of jaguars (and pumas at Villa Chacabuco).

• Transformative nature of rewilding Ibera to create a sustainable thriving local community and economy with local eco-tourism.

• The role of preserving biodiversity fo the whole ecosystem in the context of Tompkins Conservational National Parks and the significance of the mass extinction crisis.

• Kristine shares the importance of ‘Rewilding our minds” and asks, “how do we judge actions that might protect nature and life into the future? What does it mean to be part of nature?

• How, like a Noah’s Ark, the Tompkins created or expanded 15 National Parks (and now 2 marine) to counter the extinction crisis, hoping it could act as a “petri dish” to reboot species continuity against global collapse. Importance of humans understanding they must live within planet’s natural boundaries.

• If Kristine was US President what would be her top 3 policy wishes to save the planet? 1) Stop industrial fisheries 2) Extraction/Mining industries including lithium-ion for batteries and deep-sea mining 3) Preserving forests/Boreal Forests in Eastern Russia (‘Amazon is the one that gets the most attention’) 4) Preserving peatlands

• Sustainable Development Goals and leadership – leading by example – how to strike the right balance protecting the environment and maintaining standards of life for ordinary people? Should we have de-industrialization? What is the cost to climate and the environment?

• What are some of the things Kristine thinks should happen: 1) A carbon tax for Western world 2) End subsidies on industrial fisheries and instead subsidize regenerative farming 3) raise corporation tax in the USA

• Raise awareness that only 3% of overall philanthrophy goes to “the environmental movement” and only 10% of that goes to conservation.

• What environmental and social mpact does Kristine, Yvon Chouinard and the late Doug Tompkins feel their own legacies with The NorthFace, Esprit and Patagonia Inc and now their eco-philanthrophy and creation and expansion of 15 national parks has made?

• Kristine shares the important distinction between private and public companies and the difficulty in changing behaviour and the agressive pursuit of profit on the part of public companies.

• Founder and owner of Patagonia Inc has chosen to donate the billions of profts of their company to environmentally dedicated trust via a 501C4 foundation – Kristine and Doug Tompkins invested $480 million, including funding from donors, to help create or expand 15 NationalParks and rewild.

• The special attraction to Tompkins Conservation due to the sheer scale of their projects.

• TC’s inclusive and welcoming ethos that no contribution is too small or too big.

• Volunteering opportunities across all the Chile and Argentinian projects. Doug Tompkins’ famous style ethos “no detail is too small.”

• Kristine’s recommendations of the gems to travel in the Patagonia region: Ibera, wetlands. Inland terrestrial projects where lots of tourism jobs need to be filled and “everyone is welcome”, from the rich and famous to the modest backpacker. Doug’ 5 Star service in his venacular style accomodation lodges across the 15 National Parks, incuding several without infrastructure, to preserve it just for preservation not eco-tourism.

• Kristine is asked for one more project she sees as imperative to TC team? Marine Conservation “no take zones” along the coastal areas of their National Parks in Argentina and Chile (e.g. 3 years ago Kristine helped secure 30 million acres of “no take zones”).

• Priority for Kristine is in this arena is to “get the designated areas on the books”. The main question being how to enforce these marine protections and ensure they are ‘durable and real” especially when on a very large scale.

• Which marine life is most at risk? Krill in Antarctica and phytoplanktons; “the tiny things in the sea” upon which all sea life depends that are vital. Sardine and anchovy are being hoovered up. Kristine warns, “this can trigger the most incomprehensible species collapse.”

• SCPS podcast wrap up: How to Get involved? Donate or volunteer to participate in specific projects (Ibera (wetlands), Patagonia Azul (“Blue Patagonia”, Cape Froward), become a supporter of Tompkins Conservation. Go to Get Involved, “Get Wild” Section – www.tompkinsconservation.org